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>> PARTS OF THE REGION ARE STILL TRYING TO GET BETTER AFTER THE MAY 16th TORNADO.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT AMONG OTHER TOPICS ON THIS EDITION OF "DONNYBROOK."

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.

LET MEET THE PANEL.

STARTING WITH SARAH FENSKE FROM THE 314 PODCAST FROM ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE.

SHE'S SITTING IN FOR THE VACATIONING WENDY WIESE.

ONE OF OUR FOUNDERS WITH US, BILL McCLELLAN FROM THE POST DISPATCH.

JOE HOLLEMAN AND ALVIN REID FROM YOUR ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.

ALVIN, CARA SPENCER, THE MAYOR OF ST. LOUIS, SHE'S GOING TO STAKE HER REPUTATION ON MAKING SURE TORNADO VICTIMS STAY IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

WE TALKED LAST WEEK ABOUT ST. LOUIS.

LOSING MORE POPULATION THAN ANY OTHER THE MAJOR AMERICAN CITIES IN RECENT YEARS.

THAT WAS BEFORE THE TORNADO STRUCK.

2500 HOMES HAVE SERIOUS REPAIRS TO BE MADE.

1100 CURRENTLY ARE RED TAGGED WHICH MEANS UNINHABITABLE.

DO YOU THINK IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE MAYOR WILL BE ABLE STEM THE POPULATION DECLINE AFTER THIS TORNADO?

>> THERE'S A RESURGENCE GOING ON IN ST. LOUIS.

URBAN LEAGUE HAD A BIG MASSIVE DISTRIBUTION LAST SATURDAY, THEY'RE GOING TO DO ONE THIS SATURDAY AND THE TWO SATURDAYS FOLLOWING THAT.

ALL OF THE ORGANIZATION HAVE COME TOGETHER.

EVERYBODY TRYING TO HELP NOW.

I THINK THAT WOULD LEND ITSELF TO MAY BE KEEPING THIS GOING AND SAYING LIKE, RATHER THAN STOP NOW, HOW DO WE IMPROVE IN AREA?

I THINK THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO LIVE AS THE RED TAG AND SO MANY FEMALE DON'T HAVE -- PEOPLE DON'T HAVE INSURANCE.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LOSS OF POPULATION.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO GO, YOU GOT TO GO ELSEWHERE.

I THINK, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS -- I DON'T THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP THE PEOPLE IN ST. LOUIS.

THE KEY IS HOW DO YOU BRING PEOPLE BACK TO ST. LOUIS.

I THINK WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN ST. LOUIS.

I RESPECT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THE MAYOR SAYS SHE'S GOING TO BE TAKING SERIOUSLY.

STAKING YOUR REPUTATION ON SOMETHING.

SHE'S SAYING WORDS THAT CAN LATER BE USED AGAINST HER IN A TV AD.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE HARD.

WE HAVE HAD SOME BIG MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME ONLINE IN THE LAST YEAR.

ONE WOULD HOPE THAT SORT OF THE TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT OF THOSE OPENING UP, PEOPLE MOVING TO THAT, THAT CREATES OTHER OPENINGS.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOW -- HOUSING OPTIONS.

>> I DON'T THINK SHE HAS TO KEEP 100% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUDDENLY HOMELESS IN TOWN.

SHE HAS A LONG LIST OF SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE, SHE OUGHT TO HAVE SOMEBODY AND STAFF HELP THIS FAMILY.

COME CLOSE TO 100%.

>> I TOOK IT MORE ALMOST I GUESS A RALLYING CRY.

MORE THAN I TOOK IT, WE'RE GONG TO HAVE 100%.

I WAS GLAD TO HEAR HER SAY THAT.

I IT SHOWED HER DEDICATION TO WE DON'T PEOPLE LEAVING THE CITY.

THERE'S SO MANY OTHER FACTORS.

LET'S SAY DO YOU SAVE EVERYBODY IN NORTH ST. LOUIS WHO'S HOME WAS DAMAGED BY A TORNADO.

HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL LEAVE BECAUSE OF CRIME PROBLEM OR SCHOOL.

I DO APPRECIATE HER TRYING TO.

>> I THINK THE SCHOOLS COULD BE THE BIGGER POINT.

THE SCHOOL OFFICIALS HAVE SAID THAT THEY HAVE TOO MANY SCHOOLINGS.

THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE A BOAT LOAD OF THEM.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO BE COUNSELORS, TEACHERS, COACHES AND BUS DRIVER.

WHEN THEY CLOSE SCHOOLS, FEWER WILL HAVE EDUCATION OPTIONS.

I THINK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LEAVING THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS FOR DECADES.

FRIENDS OF MINE, SOON THEIR KID HIT KINDERGARTEN AGE, MOVED TO THE AGE.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEND THEM TO CITY SCHOOL.

THE IDEA THAT SCHOOLS CAN BE HAVING DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON CITY POPULATION.

THAT'S NOT NEW NEWS.

>> IT'S NOT REALLY THE ARGUMENT OF THE POINT.

THEY AREN'T THINKING ABOUT SCHOOLS IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO LIVE.

TODAY, I TOOK A ROUTE DOWN MARTIN LUTHER KING DOWN TO VANDEVENTER.

YOU'RE NOT THAT FAR FROM MIDTOWN AND ALL THAT AREA.

THERE'S A LOT OF ABANDONED BUILDINGS THAT THE TORNADO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH.

KIND OF THINKING LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF YOU FIX THIS UP, YOU CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN.

IT'S WORTH DOING SOMETHING WITH THIS.

I KNOW WE GOT TO HELP THE PEOPLE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

>> THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ENERGY GOING INTO JEFF VAN DER LOU.

THERE HAVE BEEN A GROUND SWELL OF THINGS HAPPENING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT CAN BE HARD TO HIS IT WHEN YOU DRIVING BY.

WHEN YOU WALK BY, IT'S LIKE HOUSE BY HOUSE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT ENERGY CHANGING.

I DO THINK YOU'RE IDENTIFYING REAL PROBLEM WITH THE SCHOOLS HERE.

THEY HAVE KICKED THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD A FEW TIMES.

THEY KNOW THEY NEED TO CLOSE SOME SCHOOLS IN NORTH CITY.

THERE'S BEEN SUCH A POPULATION LOSS.

THIS IS GOING TO EXACERBATE THAT.

WHEN YOU HAVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL, IT CAN SERVE AS AN ANCHOR.

>> ASKING THE FOLKS AT ST. ROCK.

THE CATHOLIC SCHOOLS ARE IN DANGER TOO.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PROBLEM.

>> I HAPPEN TO AGREE.

JOE, I THOUGHT YOU HAD A VERY FASCINATING STORY, PAGE A3 ON WHY THE CITY'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY WORKERS WERE NOT IN THE OFFICE ON MAY 16th IN THAT AFTERNOON EVEN THOUGH A TORNADO HAD BEEN FORECAST BY CHANNEL 5 AND OTHER OUTLETS TO OCCUR BETWEEN 1:00 AND 7:00 P.M.

TURNS OUT, THEY WERE IN A WORKSHOP RUN BY A GROUP CALLED AIR COLLABORATIVE, WHICH TRIES TO GET PEOPLE TO WORK TOGETHER TO INCREASE CREATIVE ECONOMY.

THE HEAD IS BETH FLOWERS ON HER OWN LINKEDIN PAGE.

>>SHE'S A SELF-DESCRIBED SQUIRREL WHISPERER.

I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN ANY WORKSHOP LIKE THAT AT ALL.

>> YOU REMEMBER WHEN THE NEWS FIRST CAME DOWN THAT WEEKEND.

THE CEMA FOLKS WERE IN THE ROOM WHERE THE ROOM WAS.

THEY WERE RELYING IT BY PHONE.

FOUND OUT THEY WERE AT A WORKSHOP.

THERE'S A WORKSHOP THAT TEACHES YOU HOW TO DEAL WITH TORNADOES.

THERE'S ONES THAT TEACH YOU HOW TO COLLABORATE.

LET'S GET A LITTLE FEEDBACK, THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

YOU GO TO THOSE WORKSHOPPINGS YOU EXCHANGE IDEAS.

THEY HAVE BIG SANDWICH AND SHEET CAKE.

THAT WAS THE KIND OF WORKSHOP IT WAS.

WHEN I WENT ON THE WEBSITE, WHEN I FOUND OUT THE COMPANY, I LOOKED AT IT.

OTHER THAN SAYING THAT EMERGENCY SERVICE PLACES WERE CONTRACTING WITH THEM, I COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING AND WHAT THEY DESCRIBE WHAT THEY DID HELPED WITH THE ACUTE IMMEDIATE HANDLING OF EMERGENCY SITUATION.

BUT, ALL FOUR PEOPLE FROM THE OFFICE WERE OUT OF THE OFFICE.

I THINK THAT'S -- I DON'T THINK THERE'S A GOOD EXPLANATION FOR IN.

YOU CAN DEFEND ANY WORKSHOP YOU WANT.

IT MIGHT BE GOOD, SANDWICH AND SHEET CAKE.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S DEFENSIBLE.

>> I THINK SOMEBODY HAS TO BE IN THE OFFICE.

>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE WHOLE THING.

IF THEY WERE CALLED IN A BONDING SESSION AND TOP GOLF.

SOMEBODY WAS AT WORK.

IF THEY HAD BEEN DAVE AND BUSTERS.

I DON'T REALLY CARE, AS LONG AS LIKE, AS A TEAM, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS EVENT.

AS LONG AS SOMEBODY IS BACK THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY SAID A POWERFUL STORM WAS HEADED TOWARDS ST. LOUIS.

>> EMERGENCY OFFICE, YOU FIGURED THERE'S NOT A LOT OF URGENCY ON DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

ON THE DAYS WHERE THE WEATHER SAYING A STORM IS COMING, YOU THINK THEY WILL GO, THIS IS NOT THE DAY FOR US TO BE.

>> JUST TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE.

THERE'S BEEN SO MANY DAYS WHERE THEY KEEP SAYING THERE'S A BIG STORM COMING.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS WAS THE ONE TO TAKE SERIOUSLY.

THAT DAY, I REMEMBER THINKING, OKAY, THEY'RE CALLING IN FOR RAIN.

I'M NOT GOING TO THINK TOO HARD.

THEN, THE SIRENS WILL GO OFF AND YOU GET THE ALERT ON YOUR PHONE.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO TO MY BASEMENT.

>> YOU'RE NOT RUNNING THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.

>> FAIR.

>> THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE THERE.

>> HOW MANY OF US THROW ICE BELT WHEN THEY SAY IT WILL SNOW?

>> IF IT'S YOUR JOB TO TELL YOU A TORNADO -- >> I DISAGREE WITH YOU.

I WAS IN CORPORATE -- AMERICA FOR 34 YEARS.

I NEVER ATTEND ONE OF THESE FEELY GOOD SESSIONS.

IF THERE'S A DAVE AND BUSTERS YOU DO IT AFTER HOURS.

>> ACTUALLY, THAT GOES ON ALL THE TIME.

>> THEY DIDN'T INVITE ME.

THAT'S POSSIBLE.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> THE GOVERNOR MIKE KEHOE WANTS TO GIVE YOU $5000 TAX CREDIT AGAINST THE DEDUCTIBLE.

MEGAN GREEN COMPLAINS WHAT ABOUT THE UNINSURED.

HE DOES HAVE $25 MILLION NOT ONLY TO LOOSEN THE REGULATIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING HOUSING BUT ALSO, TO PROVIDE MONEY FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.

HE ALSO WANTS MONEY FOR THE CHIEFS AND THE ROYALS AND THE STADIUM.

WHERE DO YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO GO?

>> I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.

WHERE IT SHOULD GO, THERE SHOULD BE IMMEDIATE HELP FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SUFFERED STORM DAMAGE AND THERE SHOULD BE NO HELP FOR THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS AND KANSAS CITY ROYALS.

I OPPOSE GIVING MONEY TO THE BLUES AND THE CARDINALS.

LET ALONE, SHOVELING MONEY TO THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS.

THAT'S CRAZY.

>> YES.

WHAT HE SAID.

I SAID IT BEFORE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT BILLIONAIRE OWNER OF SPORT TEAMS DESERVE TAX CREDIT.

THE HUNT FAMILY, WHICH OWNS THE CHIEFS, ESTIMATED ROUGHLY WORTH ABOUT $25 BILLION.

THE OWNER ITSELF, CLARK HUNT, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN $1.6 BILLION TO $2 BILLION.

JOHN SHERMAN, THE MAIN OWNER OF THE KANSAS CITY ROYALS, UP WITH $.2 BILLION.

ANY TIME YOU HAVE LEGISLATION GOING OUT OF ITS WAY TO HELP PEOPLE WHO QUALIFY AS BILLIONAIRES YOU'RE SPONSORING SOME WRONG LEGISLATION.

>> BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING IN MISSOURI HAS PUT THE STATE ON THE MAP LIKE THE CHIEFS RECENTLY WITH MAHOMES AND KELSEY AND TAYLOR SWIFT AND ALL THAT.

WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FROM THE ROYALS AND THE CHIEFS, LET'S SAY THEY BOTH GIVE $10 MILLION A YEAR CURRENTLY IN TAXINGS.

INSTEAD OF THAT MONEY GOING TO JEFF CITY, NOW IT WILL GO TO A NEW STADIUM.

IF THEY MOVE OUT TO KANSAS, THEY'LL LOSE THAT $10 MILLION A YEAR IN REVENUE.

>> IT'S A CERTAIN PRIDE IN THE STATE.

>> EVERY STATE SHOULD SAY THAT.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

>> IN THEORY, THAT WILL BE NICE.

>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY'RE RAISING MISSOURI'S MONTH PROFILE.

PEOPLE ALREADY THINK THEY ARE IN KANSAS.

I THINK KEHOE IS GOING TO RUN INTO HEAD WINDS HERE.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES SAYING WE WILL NOT GIVE YOU THIS, UNLESS YOU DO SOME VERY BIG TAX BREAKS.

THE DEMOCRATS ARE VERY MAD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE END OF LAST SESSION.

I THINK HE'S GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE.

WE COULD LOSE BOTH OF THESE TEAMS.

>> WE'LL GO FROM A STATE THAT HAD TWO NFL TEAMS.

BY THE WAY, EVERYONE KNOWS THE NFL IS THE BIGGEST ENTERTAINMENT PRODUCT OF THE YEAR OUT OF THE TOP 100 SHOWS WATCH ON TELEVISION, NFL GAMES.

WE'LL BE COMPLETING OUT OF THAT.

>> THE KID WHO WENT TO SCHOOL OUT THERE.

I LIKE THAT PART OF THE WORLD.

I REALLY DO.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE TEAMS MOVE OVER TO THE KANSAS SIDE.

I WANT THEM TO STAY IN KANSAS CITY.

THIS NUMBER TOSSED OUT THERE IS -- LET TAKE CARE OF THAT PROBLEM FIRST.

>> ESPECIALLY, WE GIVE THEM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THEN PATRICK MAHOMES BREAKS HIS LEG.

>> DON'T YOU THINK THAT ST. LOUIS LOST A LOT OF STATURE, THE RAMS?

>> YES, WE DID.

THAT'S PROVING OUT.

THE WHINING AS NOT STOPPED.

NOBODY WILL CARE.

STOP ALL THAT WHINING ABOUT THEM BEING GONE.

>> SARAH, GRAVOIS ROAD.

WE KNOW THE TRAIL NET CAME OUT WITH A REPORT THAT PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE DEATHS ARE ON THE INCREASE IN THE REGION.

SOME OF THE MOST DANGEROUS ROAD IS GRAND, NATURAL BRIDGE AND GRAVOIS.

WE HAD TWO RECENT DEATHS ON THAT STRETCH OF HIGHWAY.

ONE WAS A PEDESTRIAN, ANOTHER A BICYCLIST.

SOME IN THE BICYCLING COMMUNITY ARE SAYING, WE NEED TO REDESIGN THIS STREET TO MAKE IT SAFER.

THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

THE BAD NEWS IS, MODOT WILL NOT GET AROUND TO IT UNTIL AT LEAST 2030.

>> MODOT SEEM IMPERVIOUS TO THE PUBLIC PRESSURE TO MAKE ST. LOUIS OFFICIALS MOVE QUICKLY.

MODOT IS LIKE WE HAVE THIS FIVE-YEAR PLAN.

WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THIS WHEN WE GET TO THIS.

IF YOU WANT US TO PAY FOR THIS, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FIVE YEARS.

I THINK THIS IS REAL MISSED OPPORTUNITY.

THIS IS A ROUTE THAT THEY ARE CHARGE OF.

IT IS VERY DANGEROUS.

PEOPLE IN ST. LOUIS DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THE ANGLES THAT COME WHEN YOU HAVE DIAGONAL SHOOTING RIGHT THROUGH THE GRID.

IT WILL BE GREAT TO SEE THEM PUT IN CHANGES SOONER.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO ASSESS BLAME ON GRAVOIS AND OTHER STREETS RIDING A BIKE.

I WASN'T THERE.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T RIDE BIKES ON BUSY STREETS.

I JUST DON'T.

>> MAYBE YOU DOING IT FOR RECREATION.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO DO IT TO GET TO WORK.

>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

YES.

>> IT'S A LIVABILITY OR WHATEVER THEY CALL.

>> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

>> WE CAN HAVE WORKSHOP.

MY IMMEDIATE SOLUTION TO IT IS, I NEVER RIDE MY BIKE ON GRAVOIS OR CHIPPEWA.

I HATE THE FACT THAT TO GET TO ONE TRAIL, I HAVE TO RIDE ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE ON HAMPTON.

I HATE EVERY SECOND OF THAT.

I KNOW THOSE ROADS NOT DESIGNED FOR A BIKE.

WHAT I DO IS, I FIGURED OUT A NUMBER OF SIDE STREETS THAT WILL GET ME TO WHERE I'M GOING WITHOUT HAVING TO GO ON THOSE BIG STREETS.

THAT'S AN IMMEDIATE SOLUTION IF IT CAN BE SOLVED.

YOU WILL NOT CHANGE THE PATH OF GRAVOIS.

>> YOU CAN DO ENGINEERING CHANGES.

YOU CAN ADD THESE BUMPOUTS THAT EVERYBODY IN CHESTERFIELD HATE SO MUCH THAT MODOT IS RIPPING OUT.

THE CITY IS CRYING OUT.

THEY HELP SLOW DOWN DRIVERS.

IT'S JUST TOO WIDE.

YOU CAN PUT A MEDIAN IN THERE THAT VISUALLY SLOWS CARS DOWN.

THERE ARE THINGS WE KNOW HOW TO DO.

>> YOU CAN DO THAT.

I WILL STILL NOT RIDE MY BIKE ON GRAVOIS, GRAND OR NATURAL BRIDGE.

>> WHY DON'T WE HAVE MORE POLICE PATROLLING THAT AREA?

>> I THINK THE POLICE WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF THEM TO GO AROUND.

THEY ARE BUSY RESPONDING TO THINGS LIKE MURDER.

I DON'T KNOW.

THERE SEEM A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHY DON'T THE POLICE DOING THIS OR THAT.

>> I THINK THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE ARE DRIVING WRECKLESSLY NOW.

IT'S JUST DIFFERENT.

THERE'S NOTHING REALLY THE POLICE CAN DO.

IT'S JUST MADMAN DRIVER THING GOING ON ALL AROUND ST. LOUIS.

>> WE HAD 2200 COPS AND NOW YOU HAVE 850.

>> PEOPLE ARE DRIVING CARS LIKE MANIACS NOW.

>> I WILL SAY.

I THINK SARAH IS ON TO SOMETHING.

PROGRESSIVE CITIES, ENCOURAGE BIKING AND THEY MAKE BIKING SAFE ON MAJOR ROADS WITH A DEDICATED SEGREGATED LANE.

I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED WITH MODOT THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL THE YEAR 2030.

MODOT IS UNDER NEW LEADERSHIP.

>> WHAT PROJECT GETS CANCELED SO THAT ONE GETS MOVED UP?

>> SOMETHING IN RURAL MISSOURI.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> THERE YOU GO.

>> WHO'S PAYING?

>> SARAH, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT DARDEEN PRAIRIE.

SMALL COMMUNITY.

ONLY HAD 7000 PEOPLE.

POPULATION HAS DOUBLED.

THEY WANT A MORATORIUM ON MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AT THE VERY TIME WHEN WE NEED MORE HOUSING IN THE REGION BECAUSE THE RENTS ARE SKY HIGH AND SO ARE THE PRICES OF NEW HOMES.

>> WE DO NEED MORE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IN THE REGION.

I WOULD HATE IT SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE COPY THIS.

I KNOW IT CAN BE VERY HARD WHEN YOU'RE HIT WITH THIS GIANT INFLUX OF NEW RESIDENCE WHEN YOU SEE THE POPULATION DOUBLE.

IT'S TOUGH.

THE SCHOOLS ARE TAXED.

THE SERVICES ARE TAXED.

THE REVENUE HAS NOT CAUGHT UP WITH ALL THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO FOR ALL THE NEW PEOPLE LIVING THERE.

I'M FINE WITH THE ONE-YEAR MORATORIUM.

THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER VIEW -- VACANT LAND.

>> THE MUNICIPALITY DECIDE TO DO THAT, MY FIRST THOUGHT IS WHY NOT MAKE IT TWO.

>> LET'S TAKE ORGANIZED THOUGHTFUL APPROACH.

>> I KNOW OF A HOME THAT IS NOW RENTING FOR $4500 A MONTH.

ANOTHER ONE FOR $3500 AND THE RENTS ARE HIGH.

WE ALL KNOW THAT.

WITH THIS COUNTRY NEEDS IS MORE HOUSING.

>> THE LAST PERSON TO MOVE TO THE SUBURB WANTS THAT.

>> NOW LET'S CLOCK THAT.

>> THAT'S IT.

>> CAN'T THEY MOVE TO THE SUBURB NEXT DOOR?

>> ST. LOUIS HAS PROBLEMS.

I KNOW THEY DID.

THEY CAN STILL BUILD A HOUSE IN DARDEEN VILLAGE.

>> I THINK THE SOLUTION IS, GO TO CLAYTON CITY COUNCIL.

TELL THEM THAT CITY NEEDS TO BUILD MORE MODERATE TO LOW INCOME MULTIPLE UNIT HOUSING.

>> YOU KNOW IN MASSACHUSETTS IN SUBURBAN BOSTON, IT'S REQUIRED.

>> YOU CAN PUT THEM IN THE BROWN SHOE COMPANY.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> ALVIN A GROUP OF WHITE SUPREMACIST MARCHED IN SATURDAY IN KANSAS CITY TO DOWNTOWN.

THE GROUP CALLED THE POPULAR FRONT.

PATRIOT FRONT.

MAYBE NOT POPULAR.

MAYBE NOT EVEN PATRIOT.

APPARENTLY, THEY DIDN'T BREAK ANY RULES OR LAWS, EXCEPT ONE.

THEY TRAVELED BY HIDING IN U-HAUL.

OTHER THAN THAT, THEY WALKED ON SIDEWALKS WHICH IS THEIR RIGHT.

THEY SPOKE, WHICH IS THEIR RIGHT.

ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THE REACTION OF KANSAS CITY?

>> I THOUGHT THEY WERE A LITTLE TOO CORDIAL IN THE REACTION.

BIGGEST PROBLEM, THESE PEOPLE WERE ALL IN MASKS.

I SEE HOOD.

THE STATEMENTS FROM THE CITY, FIRST THING THEY SAY, EVERYBODY GOT THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT.

I AGREE WITH.

I THINK YOU GOT TO BE LITTLE BIT MORE CONDEMNATION OF THIS.

THIS IS DANGEROUS.

I DON'T WANT ST. LOUIS TO BE THE PLACE WHERE LIKE, WE'RE WELCOME IN ST. LOUIS.

DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE.

I WISH KANSAS CITY -- >> I GET THE SENSE THEY WERE WELCOME IN KANSAS CITY.

THE CITY OFFICIALS LOOKED AT THE IF THEY'RE NOT BREAKING ANY LAWS, THAT THE FIRST AMENDMENT COVERS THEIR RIGHT TO GET TOGETHER AND MARCH DOWN THE SIDE SIDEWALK.

THE TOUGH PART ABOUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS THAT IT TAKES NO COURAGE TO STAND UP FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT WHEN IT INVOLVES WITH SPEECH YOU AGREE WITH.

IT'S SPEECH YOU DON'T AGREE WITH.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH MEANS FORTUNATELY, UNFORTUNATELY, SADLY, THIS GROUP WAS CONDEMN BY THE ADL.

SOUNDS LIKE A TRULY UNLIKEABLE GROUP OF PEOPLE.

THEY GET PROTECTED SO THAT EVERYBODY ELSE GETS PROTECTED.

>> THE ACLU HAS BEEN GOOD ABOUT THAT.

I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A KID, THE KLAN IT WAS MARCHED IN SKOKIE.

THE ACLU SAID, WE OBVIOUSLY DISLIKE THESE PEOPLE A LOT, AS LONG AS THEY OPERATE WITHIN THE LAW.

>> I SAID WE GOT TO LET THESE PEOPLE DO THEIR THING.

THINGS ARE LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NOW.

TY FEEL A LITTLE MORE THREATENED.

THESE PEOPLE, I'M NOT -- I THINK THE SUSPENSION OF RIGHTS IN THE UNITED STATES GOING ON NOW IS TERRIBLE.

I CAN'T POINT THEM OUT.

I THINK THESE PEOPLE ARE DANGEROUS.

YOU GOT TO MAKE A POINT.

>> THOSE WILL BE THE LAST WORDS.

WE HAVE LAST CALL ON YOUTUBE CHANNEL COMING UP.

FIRST, LET'S LOOK AT THE LETTERS ABOUT LAST WEEK'S PROGRAM.

I READ REPORTING THAT SOME PEOPLE IN THE CITY DID HEAR A SIREN.

I KNOW OF ONE PERSON IN DUTCH TOWN WHO HEARD SIREN.

THERE MUST BE MORE TO THE STORY.

I UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE HIT BY THE TORNADO ARE IN GREAT NEED OF HELP, BUT I THINK REPLACING THE ANTIQUATED EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM IS THE KIND OF THING THE RAMS MONEY SHOULD BE USED FOR.

LOVE THE SHOW.

WE ALSO HEARD FROM THIS.

>> A COMMENT THAT JOE HOLLEMAN LAST WEEK WHEN HE SAID, ST. LOUIS WAS BUILT AND THE AUTOMOBILE.

THAT IS FALSE.

ST. LOUIS WAS BUILT AROUND THE STREET RAILWAY.

I URGE THAT MR. HOLLEMAN LOOK AT THE CHANNEL 9 SPECIAL THE STORY OF ST. LOUIS STREETCARS.

WHICH WAS ON NINE PBS AND AVAILABLE ON YOUTUBE.

>> THANK YOU, BILL.

TAKE THAT JOE HOLLEMAN.

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COMING UP NEXT, WE TACKLE MORE TOPICS, THE CONVERSATION CONTINUES.

WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY SPENDING $155 MILLION TO FIX UP THE DOWNTOWN CONVENTION CENTER.

MAY BE WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE GAS PRICES IN ILLINOIS WHICH ARE GOING UP AGAIN.

THAT AND MORE WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN ON YOUTUBE AND NEXT WEEK AT THIS TIME.

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